@ai6yr this post really reads like "it's not federated, ok but it is federated but not the way i like it"

identi.ca was also VC-funded and didn't have any great variety of servers, but we don't consider that much of an issue now?

@halva @ai6yr We’re also not using identi.ca today.

Right. That's kind of the point! The proto-fediverse was dominated by a VC-funded startup -- just like today's ATmosphere. And eight to ten years later the next-generaiton protocols (originally also developed by a corporation) got refined and adopted by a standards bodies -- just like will probably happen with AT Proto.

And presumably just as somebody from a Meta-funded non-profit has repeatedly shut down criticisms of Meta on the W3C ActivityPub mailing list, at some point somebody from a Bluesky-funded non-profit will try to shut down criticisms of Bluesky on whatever standards group is trying to take things forward.

There's a lot to critique with Bluesky but many of the critques apply to the ActivityPub fediverse as well.

@Gargron @halva @ai6yr